{"id":82,"date":"2014-05-26T14:00:54","date_gmt":"2014-05-26T14:00:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/beta.dminlgp.com\/?p=82"},"modified":"2014-08-11T21:29:20","modified_gmt":"2014-08-11T21:29:20","slug":"coffee-with-sugar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dlgp\/coffee-with-sugar\/","title":{"rendered":"Coffee with sugar?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Beginning of this year Thomas Hitzlsperger<\/a>, a famous former football player\u00a0 from Germany came out as gay and generated intense media interest. In Germany, as in many other countries, soccer players have been very cautious about sharing information about their private life. Hitzlsperger came out in an interview with the newspaper ZEIT. In the conversation with Carolin Emcke he explains his secret and reasons why he wasn\u2019t honest and open about his feelings for a long time.<\/a><\/p>\n

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(Translation SB)<\/em><\/p>\n

DIE ZEIT:<\/strong> Mr. Hitzlsperger, you asked us for a conversation. Why?<\/em><\/p>\n

Thomas: Hitzlsperger:<\/strong> I want to speak out about my homosexuality. I want to initiate a public discussion \u2013 the discussion about homosexual professional athletes. The topic is always stuck in stereotypes. Professional athletes always seem to be \u201cdisciplined\u201d, \u201chard\u201d and \u201chyper masculine.\u201d Homosexuals on the contrary seem to be \u201ctouchy\u201d, \u201cweak\u201d and \u201csensible.\u201d It does not fit together. A homosexual professional athlete? Contradictions are being generated and I was always irritated by it. These contradictions are shared in pub talks as sensations.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

It was fascinating to me, that Hitzlsperger chose an interview setting for his public outing. He shared the delicate news about his coming out not in a well-worded statement, but in a conversation. In the very first sentence of his interview he also shared about his anger on the impact of pub talk and bar level conversation about homosexuality. It seems, as if the silence about homosexuality but also the settings in which it is being discussed are telling.<\/p>\n

Where is homosexuality discussed?<\/p>\n

Pub talk?<\/p>\n

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Where are setting in which a serious and fair conversation is possible?<\/p>\n

And even more: where a conversation WITH and not ABOUT homosexuals is possible?<\/p>\n

It seems as if homosexuals are scared to be honest. And it seems as if most of the<\/p>\n

others are either scared to talk about too or that they are not interested in a honest conversation. They rather stick with their stereotypes.<\/p>\n

\u2018Life is so full of amazing things. <\/em><\/p>\n

I realized I could only truly enjoy my life once I was honest.\u2019\u00a0\u00a0 <\/em><\/p>\n

(Robbie Rogers, soccer player)<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

It appears as if the solution to a new perception and approach to homosexuality lies in the way we talk about it and with whom.<\/p>\n

In his book \u201cOver Coffee,\u201d Dave Thompson shares a coffee-house conversation between himself and a small-town pastor concerning a gay church member who desires to be partnered in the church.<\/p>\n

\u201eI am arguing the case for allowing two gay Christians, (\u2026)\u00a0 who desire to live by the same standards as all other Christians, to be partnered together. This provides the means fort hem be able to keep God\u2019s first commandment, that His creature should not be alone.\u201c<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

(Dave Thompson \u2013 Over coffee. Kindle Electronic Edition. Location 244 of 752).<\/p>\n

Over coffee<\/strong><\/p>\n

What I like about the book is, that Thompson enfolds different standpoints in his fictional book. He enters different worldviews, biblical standpoints and life experiences. And he connects this – sometimes even differing – opinions in a conversation over coffee. It is not about wrong or right, not about convincing or giving in. It is about a honest conversation. The conversation itself reveals a new approach.<\/p>\n

I would deeply appreciate a second edition of the book. The case study \u201cwhat to do about the homosexual, who wants to be partnered\u201d could need a second edition. A conversation WITH the gay person. My experiece shows, that getting to know someone in real and drinking a coffee together helps more than reading a dozen of books and doing biblestudies.<\/p>\n

We should have more conversations over coffee!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Who do you want to meet?<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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