{"id":4826,"date":"2015-05-07T11:25:27","date_gmt":"2015-05-07T18:25:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dminlgp\/?p=4826"},"modified":"2015-05-07T11:25:27","modified_gmt":"2015-05-07T18:25:27","slug":"neither-eastern-nor-western","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dlgp\/neither-eastern-nor-western\/","title":{"rendered":"Neither Eastern nor Western"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dminlgp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Asian-Jesus.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-4829\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dminlgp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Asian-Jesus.jpg\" alt=\"Asian Jesus\" width=\"307\" height=\"204\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dlgp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Asian-Jesus.jpg 275w, https:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dlgp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Asian-Jesus-150x100.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 307px) 100vw, 307px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I have been in school for a long time, not only as a student, but also as a teacher. Knowledge and information runs through my academic veins. I like to know things. But the more I know, the less I realize I know. And this is particularly true with the study of theology. What do we really know? Who is right? Who is wrong? Who makes it into heaven? Is it one\u2019s theological orthodoxy that makes that happen? The older I get the more I tend to reject that notion. So when I see another book on theology, you can just imagine my excitement \u2013 or lack thereof. Please don\u2019t get me wrong. I am not saying that this is not important grist for the mill; rather, I am just wondering how much good theology alone does the human heart, the human soul. Are there better things that Christians should be doing with their time than grappling with theological ABC\u2019s? I wonder if anyone else feels this way? Am I just a lazy thinker? Or am I just tired of mulling over trivialities? Lest I be misunderstood, I thought this week\u2019s reading by Simon Chan was an important read. It was refreshing to step outside a Western paradigm for a change. However, I still felt that I was reading a Western theologian at times.<\/p>\n<p>One line of thinking that was interesting in the reading has to do with the issues of divine <em>immanence<\/em> and <em>transcendence<\/em>. How far or near is God in relation to the world? I have wrestled with this question for decades and have been on both sides of the spectrum on this issue \u2013 both as a conservative and a liberal Christian for 50 years. Chan makes an excellent point about immanence when he writes about context in Chapter 2.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Context plays a critical role in deciding which side of the contrast is to be preferred. In a culture of optimism in the nineteenth century, fostered by material prosperity and military power and supported the theory of evolutionary progress, the accent fell heavily on God\u2019s immanence: God must be present in our world, perhaps even on our side! This was how European colonial expansion was justified. But by the mid-twentieth century after the shattering experience of two world wars, optimism turned into despair. Immanence was now replaced by an absent \u201cGod,\u201d who for many meant no God at all.<a href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For Asia, Chan says, the theological issue is not whether or not God exists; rather, the issue is \u201chow to make sense of the Christian understanding of God in contexts filled with a plethora of vastly different conceptions of deity.\u201d<a href=\"#_ftn2\" name=\"_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a> Chan then looks at these various views. In particular, he looks at God from both Islamic and Hindu perspectives. He also looks specifically at God in Chinese contexts and God in a primal religious context. This discussion of <em>pragmatics<\/em>, in particular, caught my eye. Chan says that in this context the gods or spirits are not only worshipped but are sought after especially for prosperity and for general protection.<a href=\"#_ftn3\" name=\"_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a> As I read this, a question crossed my mind. Don\u2019t we Christians do the same thing at times? Don\u2019t we share these pragmatic impulses? Don\u2019t we tend to rejoice when God answers our prayer for a close parking space? But do we thank God for the exercise we get if we have to walk from the far corner of the Costco parking lot since there were no spaces in front? Was God present then, when my prayer wasn\u2019t answered? And what about healing? If we pray for healing but do not get our \u201cwish,\u201d does that mean that God is not there? Or might it mean that my faith is deficient? Or might it mean nothing at all? These issues of immanence and transcendence are all around us. And whether we realize it or not, the most orthodox Christian theologian has elements of \u201cfolk Christianity\u201d in his or her system of theology. None of us has this all figured out. And if we think we do, we are only fooling ourselves.<\/p>\n<p>I thought it was interesting that Pentecostalism was having such success in Asia. This form of theology reminded me of the Vineyard movement from our final text during spring semester. But even in Asia, Pentecostalism has its problems. According to Chan, it is not likely that an educated Buddhist would find Pentecostalism that attractive, although that person might be unable to escape from its primal religious context.<a href=\"#_ftn4\" name=\"_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Chan then covers other theological concerns, namely: humanity and sin, Christ and salvation, the Holy Spirit and spirituality, and ecclesiology. Again, there are particular ways of understanding these doctrines in an Asian context. For example, in cultures that are sensitive to issues of shame and saving face, how are personal sin and the substitutionary atonement of Christ understood? And what about the Eucharist? What about personal conversion? And what about the essence of the Trinitarian God that is so much a part of Orthodox Christian belief? These are all issues that take time to unpack, to understand, to commit oneself to. None of these are easily imputed to one who does not think in Western paradigms. But is Christianity Western or Eastern? Or is it <em>neither<\/em>? Is there only one way of understanding these matters? Can an Eastern mind conform to a Western construct? Or does it need to? These are issues that I believe are beyond a theologian\u2019s abilities to fully grasp or explain. Some of this must be relegated to the realm of great mystery, to a realm only understood by the Holy Spirit. For many Christians, this is hard to do. How much do I have to have \u201cfigured out\u201d for me to be a Christian? Perhaps we would have to seek wiser theologians than I to find the answer to these questions. What are your thoughts on these matters?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> Simon Chan, <em>Grassroots Asian Theology: Thinking the Faith from the Ground Up<\/em> (Downers Grove, IL: IVP Academic, 2014) 47-48.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\" name=\"_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> Ibid., 48.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref3\" name=\"_ftn3\">[3]<\/a> Ibid., 59.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref4\" name=\"_ftn4\">[4]<\/a> Ibid., 61.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have been in school for a long time, not only as a student, but also as a teacher. Knowledge and information runs through my academic veins. I like to know things. But the more I know, the less I realize I know. And this is particularly true with the study of theology. 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