{"id":36390,"date":"2024-03-05T20:26:45","date_gmt":"2024-03-06T04:26:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dlgp\/?p=36390"},"modified":"2024-03-05T20:26:45","modified_gmt":"2024-03-06T04:26:45","slug":"postmodern-musings-swimming-in-the-waters-of-uncertainty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dlgp\/postmodern-musings-swimming-in-the-waters-of-uncertainty\/","title":{"rendered":"Postmodern Musings: Swimming in the Waters of Uncertainty"},"content":{"rendered":"

I am ever so guilty of throwing around the word, \u201cpost-modern\u201d without fully understanding how deeply ingrained this philosophy is in how I think and live. As I slogged through Stephen R.C. Hicks\u2019 book, Explaining Postmodernism Skepticism from Rosseau to Foucault, <\/em>and more willingly listened to some podcasts with Hicks as a guest, I began to see that it is nearly impossible for me to untangle postmodernism from my belief system. [1]<\/a><\/p>\n

In a previous blog post, I wrote that capitalism is the water in which we swim because of how deeply saturated our culture is in trying to get ahead. Capitalistic ideology seeps its way into our beliefs, our practices, our decisions, the very way we live our lives. The same is true for postmodernism. It, too, is the water in which we swim. It is our reality even as postmodern thought would argue against a fixed reality. [2]<\/a><\/p>\n

What is Postmodernism?<\/strong><\/p>\n

In the Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, Hicks says, \u201cPostmodernism is skepticism of the metanarrative.\u201d In other words, there is no overarching story or truth to how the world works. By pushing back on modernism, philosophers became skeptical that there are any communal truths, focusing instead on smaller narratives, opinions, and beliefs. As we moved from modernism to postmodernism, truth and reality became subjective, based on one\u2019s lived experience.<\/p>\n

Yet, Hicks asks, \u201cIf there is no world or self to understand and get right on their terms, then what is the purpose of thought or action?\u201d[3]<\/a> If everything is subjective, based on my experience or your experience or the lived experience of someone somewhere else in the world, then what is the purpose of anything? There can be no absolutes, no truths, nothing to know for sure.<\/p>\n

And, when said this way, I get how foolish this sounds. Take science, for example, isn\u2019t the purpose of science to move us closer to objective truth? Admittedly, I only received decent marks in biology and had to work extra hard for the same in chemistry. I was lucky to pull a D+ in my college genetics course but I could have possibly landed a C if I had actually attended<\/em> class. Science may not be my strength but what I\u2019ve always (maybe incorrectly) understood about science was that it was about finding objective truth. Am I wrong about that understanding?<\/p>\n

But when it comes to anything else, and I\u2019m pretty sure I mean anything else, I glide through the waters of postmodernism like an Olympic swimmer, especially when it comes to religion.<\/p>\n

Postmodernism and the Church<\/strong><\/p>\n

Graham Ward, Regius Professor of Divinity at Christ Church, Oxford, writes, \u201c\u2026 theology has always been aware that the knowledge it produces facilitates an understanding of the human condition and the world we live in more than a knowledge of God-in-Godself.\u201d[4]<\/a> Take for example the typical interpreters of the Bible who until recently were overwhelmingly educated males, often formally celibate, raised into a higher social class, and trained to broker and maintain an organized form of Christianity upon which their jobs depended.[5]<\/a> These male interpreters could see through no other lens than the ones in the goggles they wore to see in the modernistic water they were swimming in. A postmodern perspective would recognize that these men would have a vested interest in continuing a system that keeps the status quo \u2013 including the inequities, such as male leadership, white and class privilege, insuring adherence of belief to creeds.[6]<\/a><\/p>\n

The church I currently serve has made solid work of re-imagining what following Jesus looks like in the postmodern world. The tagline of our church is \u201cspacious Christianity,\u201d meaning,<\/p>\n

a way of wisdom and practice in the footsteps of Jesus of Nazareth. This path is a commitment to the complexity of community, to the paradox of both\/and, to transformation of soul, mind and body, and to the flourishing of a just and whole earth. The Jewish and Christian Scriptures are our sacred guide along centuries-old paths that lead us into the universal love of God. Spacious Christianity invites us to tell our stories and welcome questions as we delight in the larger Mystery that draws us into a future that is more than we can ask or imagine, living lives of hope, healing and purpose.[7]<\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n

This postmodern spacious Christianity works well for our adults. In fact, adults seem to greatly appreciate being in a church that encourages questions, doubts, and wonder, a church in which the leadership regularly says things from the pulpit like, \u201cI don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t have an answer.\u201d<\/p>\n

But I wonder if spacious Christianity is what our kids need.<\/p>\n

As a human development major in college (classes in which I received A\u2019s and B\u2019s, so not like my genetics class), we learned about Piaget\u2019s stages of childhood development. Most elementary school age children are in what Piaget calls the \u201cPreoperational\u201d or \u201cConcrete Operational\u201d stages during which their brain works differently than an adult brain. They need absolutes, rules, boundaries or as Richard Rohr says, \u201ccontainers\u201d to be able to develop more complex thinking and, perhaps even more important, to feel secure.[8]<\/a><\/p>\n

Richard Rohr writes,<\/p>\n

A sense of order is the easiest and most natural way to begin; it is a needed first \u201ccontainer.\u201d I cannot think of a culture in human history, before the present postmodern era, that did not value law, tradition, custom, family loyalties, authority, boundaries, and morality of some clear sort. While they aren\u2019t perfect, these containers give us the necessary security, predictability, impulse control, and ego structure that we need, before the chaos of real life shows up. As far as I can see it, healthily conservative people tend to grow up more naturally and more happily than those who receive only freeform, build-it-yourself worldviews.<\/em><\/p>\n

We need a very strong container to hold the contents and contradictions that arrive later in life. We ironically need a very strong ego structure to let go of our ego. We need to struggle with the rules more than a bit before we throw them out. We only internalize values by butting up against external values for a while. All this builds the strong self that can <\/em>positively <\/em>follow Jesus\u2014and \u201cdie to itself.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

I think Piaget would agree.<\/p>\n

I wonder about how postmodernism in our church is affecting the faith of our children. I value that children in our congregation are taught to ask questions, to wonder, to doubt. I appreciate that they are not being indoctrinated with a non-negotiable belief system that threatens them with hell if they do not believe \u201ccorrectly.\u201d At the same time, I wonder if they might also need a stronger \u201ccontainer\u201d some boundaries, a foundation, teaching them that this is who we are as Presbyterians, this is what the saints of the Church have confessed about God for centuries, this is what we know about God, this is who Jesus is to us. From this container they can then grow, discover, and embark on a journey of faith that will bring them closer to following in the way of Jesus, knowing who they are and Whose they are.<\/p>\n

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[1]<\/a> Jordan B. Peterson podcast, Stephen Hicks: Philosophy and Postmodernism, Jordan\u2019s Conversation with Stephen Hicks<\/em>, May 5, 2019, Scribd.<\/p>\n

[2]<\/a> Stephen R. C. Hicks, Explaining Postmodernism Skepticism and Socialism from Rousseau to Foucault<\/em>, Ockham\u2019s Razor Publishing, 2014, Kindle Edition, 12.<\/p>\n

[3]<\/a> Ibid, 10.<\/p>\n

[4]<\/a> Ward, G. (2003). Deconstructive theology. In K. J. Vanhoozer (Ed.), The Cambridge companion to postmodern theology<\/em>: Cambridge University Press, 82. I was introduced to Graham Ward when reading this blog: https:\/\/firstpostmodern.org\/blog\/2019\/02\/14\/postmodernism\/<\/a> accessed March 4, 2024. I want to read more from Graham Ward!<\/p>\n

[5]<\/a> Richard Rohr, What do we do with the Bible?<\/em> Albuquerque, NM: CAC Publishing, 2018, 38-39. I also discovered this quote on the blog: https:\/\/firstpostmodern.org\/blog\/2019\/02\/14\/postmodernism\/<\/a> accessed March 4, 2024.<\/p>\n

[6]<\/a> Rick Bowers, My Thoughts on Postmodernism<\/em>, https:\/\/firstpostmodern.org\/blog\/2019\/02\/14\/postmodernism\/<\/p>\n

[7]<\/a> https:\/\/bendfp.org\/about-2\/what-we-believe\/<\/a> accessed March 4, 2024.<\/p>\n

[8]<\/a> Richard Rohr, The Universal Pattern<\/em>, https:\/\/cac.org\/daily-meditations\/the-universal-pattern-2020-08-09\/<\/a>, accessed March 4, 2024.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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