{"id":11589,"date":"2017-02-10T01:48:53","date_gmt":"2017-02-10T09:48:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dminlgp.com\/?p=11589"},"modified":"2017-02-10T01:48:53","modified_gmt":"2017-02-10T09:48:53","slug":"inconceivable-or-notmycalvin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dlgp\/inconceivable-or-notmycalvin\/","title":{"rendered":"Inconceivable or #notmyCalvin"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of my favorite stories about John C<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/www.browncoatnation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Inconceivable.png\" width=\"382\" height=\"382\" \/>alvin was relayed to me by one of my seminary professors during a class on Calvin and his writings.<br \/>\nWe were discussing Calvin&#8217;s views on the Eucharist and Dr. Achtemeier told us that Calvin was adamant that the Eucharist should be celebrated weekly during worship &#8211; but the Geneva council never agreed to allow it &#8211; mostly because it would bring them to close in worship practice to the Roman Catholic church, of which they wanted no part. \u00a0Dr. Achtemeier used this story to highlight, that the limits of an individual pastor &#8211; no matter how gifted &#8211; on any congregation.<\/p>\n<p>It is a reminder that I have been comforted by on more than one occasion in my time in ordained ministry and it kept popping into my mind as I read Max Weber&#8217;s\u00a0<em>The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. \u00a0<\/em>Even as Weber himself would often add qualifier like, &#8216;Calvin himself did \u00a0not hold this view&#8217; or something of that nature, I found myself wanting to say (over and over again) &#8211; that isn&#8217;t what Calvin thought, or that isn&#8217;t what Calvin meant!<\/p>\n<p>As mentioned, Weber does make clear that he is predominantly dealing with &#8216;Calvinists&#8217;, rather than Calvin himself, but Weber paints his implications with such a broad brush as to impune all Calvinists and John Calvin himself with many of his claims. \u00a0Particularly problematic is that, while referencing several different forms or variants of Calvinism, he most commonly references the Puritans as his example. \u00a0While the Puritans were certainly Calvinists, they by no means are the dominant variant of Calvin&#8217;s theology.<\/p>\n<p>That would, of course, be the Reformed movement of Protestant Christianity, notably the Presbyterians (of which, I happily count myself). \u00a0While sharing a theological forefather in Calvin, Reformed Christians &#8211; certainly 21st century Reformed Christians &#8211; and the Puritans hold very little in common, even theologically. \u00a0While this may seem strange at first, Calvin is often under appreciated as a theologian, especially in terms of his influence. \u00a0Many of the the major streams of Protestant Christianity drew much influence and inspiration from him and those that didn&#8217;t often defined themselves over or against this theology (I&#8217;m looking at you Armenians)<\/p>\n<p>All of this matters, specifically for Weber because in trying to ascertain the &#8216;why&#8217; of the rapid rise of capitalism in certain locations in our world, he draws a line from Luther and his concept of &#8216;calling&#8217; to Calvin&#8217;s understanding that labor could be included in that calling to glorify God. \u00a0From there he sees the Puritans (Calvinists) applying that to all areas of life &#8211; including business &#8211; and in part, thereby giving rise to the birth of the &#8216;spirit of capitalism&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>Weber argues, comprehensively, that the key element of Calvinism &#8211; which he often remarks is &#8216;dreary&#8217; or &#8216;gloomy&#8217; &#8211; that leads to this development is the doctrine of predestination. \u00a0 As a Presbyterian pastor, my official response to that word is: AAAGGGHHH!!!!!<\/p>\n<p>It is much less common now than it used to be, because we are just much less theologically literate and conversant as a society than we used to be &#8211; but Presbyterians and all Calvinists have been painted with the broad brush of being the &#8216;predestination people&#8217;. \u00a0And Weber, in my opinion, makes similar mistakes to most when asserting these accusations: he both misunderstands the implications of the doctrine and overstates its importance.<\/p>\n<p>In the interest of length and clarity, I am going to bullet point the responses to Weber&#8217;s treatment of this issue. \u00a0But first two important caveats: 1 &#8211; While I am fairly familiar with Reformed history &#8211; I am not a full fledged church historian, and my knowledge of puritan history is fairly limited (beyond Thanksgiving). \u00a02 &#8211; Weber, as mentioned above, does cede that this is not so much Calvin&#8217;s view as that of those that followed him and claimed his mantle. \u00a0But again &#8211; Weber is making broad claims, so it seems fair to retort broadly.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Weber states: &#8216;\u00a0At that time , and in general even today , the doctrine of predestination was considered its most characteristic dogma&#8217; (Weber, Kindle location 1496) \u00a0I might be willing to cede that that the doctrine is one of Calvinism&#8217;s and\/or Reformed Christianity&#8217;s most recognizable or unique characteristic dogma, I believe that Weber takes this to also mean that it is in many ways a\u00a0<em>central\u00a0<\/em>doctrine of Calvin, and that is not in any way true.<\/li>\n<li>One of the reasons I have always liked and appreciated John Calvin and the church that his theology birthed, which I now serve in, is that it takes seriously the Word of God written: the Bible. \u00a0And it takes seriously the intellectual responsibility to &#8216;continue to work out our faith with fear and trembling&#8217; &#8211; we are called to wrestle and grapple with the Word of God, maybe especially when we don&#8217;t quite understand it all or like where we believe it to be leading us.\n<ul>\n<li>This is how Calvinists came to be known as the &#8216;predestination people&#8217; &#8211; not, as so many people assume &#8211; that Calvin &#8211; or later, his adherents &#8211; were obsessed with the doctrine. But rather, Calvin recognized that the Bible definitely said something about predestination, and faithfully undertook the work to find out what he believed God was saying to us in and through those words and that doctrine\n<ul>\n<li>This is distinctive, because most theologians simply ignore its existence<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Calvin often described the doctrine of predestination as a pastoral doctrine. \u00a0My Calvin Professor (again, Dr.\u00a0Achtemeier) once described Calvin thought on the matter this way: &#8216;if you are worrying about if you are &#8216;elect&#8217; \u00a0or not as one of the predestined, you have nothing to worry about.\n<ul>\n<li>This is certainly not been the case of all Calvinists through history, and definitively not of the Puritans, but it is important to understand where Calvin, himself, is coming from on the topic.\n<ul>\n<li>Again, Weber does note that Calvin was quite strong on the idea that we should not try to understand God&#8217;s reasoning as it was quite simply beyond us.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Weber time and time again highlights material success as a sign for the Calvinists of their election &#8211; and he (Weber) knows this because he mentions the Reformed mantra &#8216;Faith Alone&#8217; &#8211; But while he pays lip service to this idea that Calvinists believe in salvation by faith alone, he also says that:\n<ul>\n<li>In practice this means that God helps those who help themselves . \u00a0Thus the Calvinist , as it is sometimes put , himself creates his own salvation , or , as would be more correct , the conviction of it . But this creation cannot , as in Catholicism , consist in a gradual accumulation of individual good works to one\u2019s credit , but rather in a systematic self &#8211; control which at every moment stands before the inexorable alternative , chosen or damned (Weber, Kindle location 1726)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Weber is careful to separate earning salvation and assurance of election, but this seems to be mental gymnastics &#8211; Does one need to be reassured of their election if they are trusting fulling in God for their salvation? \u00a0Calvin definitely didn&#8217;t think so, and most Reformed Christians don&#8217;t either. \u00a0Again, I suspect this is a case of all Calvinists getting painted with a Puritan brush<\/li>\n<li>For Weber predestination is central because it provides psychological motivation or fertile ground for the &#8216;spirit of capitalism&#8217; to develop. \u00a0But, again, this is a complete misreading of Reformed and Calvinist theology.\n<ul>\n<li>For those of us that are Reformed, all that we do is intended to be a response to God&#8217;s initial acts of love and salvation in our lives. \u00a0We respond to God&#8217;s action and presence in our lives with gratitude.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>I have remained a member of the Reformed tribe, in large part due to the commitment to be &#8216;Reformed and always reforming&#8217;&#8230;. the idea and belief that we don&#8217;t yet have everything figured out and that God is still speaking to us, through us and calling us to continue to work out our salvation and our understanding of that salvation.\n<ul>\n<li>In that vein, two leading lights that have helped me understand more and grow around this issue are Karl Barth and Jurgen Moltmann&#8230;&#8230; I can&#8217;t recommend them both highly enough.\n<ul>\n<li>Barth &#8211; reframed the &#8216;dreaded&#8217; issues of &#8216;double predestination&#8217; (if some are predestined to election, then some must also be predestined to damnation) \u00a0by looking at it Christologically:\u00a0 Because Christ took the condemnation of sinners upon himself on his cross \u2013 he died for us \u2013 God gave the election of grace in Christ\u2019s resurrection to all sinners.<\/li>\n<li>Moltmann &#8211; said of this topic: &#8216;In the doctrine of election it is not so much universalism vs particularism, but how to understand condemnation and the election of grace in Jesus Christ&#8217;\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/moltmanniac.com\/a-letter-from-jurgen-moltmann\/\">ref here<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of my favorite stories about John Calvin was relayed to me by one of my seminary professors during a class on Calvin and his writings. 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