{"id":1106,"date":"2012-10-04T22:22:00","date_gmt":"2012-10-04T22:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/beta.dminlgp.com\/you-might-be-wrong\/"},"modified":"2012-10-04T22:22:00","modified_gmt":"2012-10-04T22:22:00","slug":"you-might-be-wrong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.georgefox.edu\/dlgp\/you-might-be-wrong\/","title":{"rendered":"you might be wrong"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"299\" src=\"http:\/\/stephenlbaxter.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/05\/snoopy.jpg?w=296&amp;h=300\" width=\"296\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>This week we were reading a book on the question \u201dWho needs theology? (by Stanley J. Grenz and Roger E. Olson). The authors are enfolding their answer to this question. \u201dWho needs theology? And their answer is quite simple: <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong><span>\u201cAll do.\u201d (p. 46)<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>So what is the book really about?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Grenz and Olson are presenting rather their own theological system (perhaps due to the short and elementary form) than an overview of different definitions, science historical approaches or and introduction to diverse theologians.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>The explanations on the definition and the history of \u201ctheology\u201d they are providing are very short. Illustrations on the differentiation of the theological disciplines are foreshortened and their explications on the relation of biblical and exegetical, hermeneutic and contextual and lastly a break down of theological concepts insufficient.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>If I am not adequately introduced to <\/span><\/p>\n<ul type=\"disc\">\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>what theology is, was and will be (and I would expect that, since the book is <em>about <\/em>theology); <\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>where theology came from<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>who theology was explored and affected by <\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>what the bible says about it on a broad horizon of different hermeneutical approaches<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>\u2026 then I would rather not have anything to with it. Because then it stays dubious and suspicious to the reader.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>So the (positive embrace to the question and) the answer about theology does not seem to be as easy as Grenz and Olson state.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Perhaps it is linked to the division of the different types of theologians and their differing practices and approaches of theology within five categories:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul type=\"disc\">\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>folk theologian<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>lay theologian<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>ministerial theologian<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>professional theologian<\/span><\/li>\n<li class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>academic theologian<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Grenz and Olson are presenting this four approaches rather as idealized and goal-oriented stages than as descriptions of the average conditions in the real life of men and women in the churches.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Due to the stage oriented perspective the determination of Grenz\u2019 and Olson\u2019s determination is excluding and discriminative against all members of churches who didn\u2019t or couldn\u2019t join seminary.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. <\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"right\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>1 Cor 12:12<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span><span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><strong><span>Children theology<\/span><\/strong><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Grenz and Olson are using plenty of Charles M. Schulz\u2019 Peanuts comic strips to illustrate their thoughts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>To me it is fascination that they are devaluing folk and lay theologians, but that they are using children and dogs to explain their theological thoughts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>I suggest to break that school of thought by looking at different, more appreciative and valuing perspective on non-academics.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Like kids:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong><span>\u00a0<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"273\" src=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-5OzVx5Y8jS4\/Trs3xI3j9dI\/AAAAAAAAAMc\/bRBuV5UMscw\/s1600\/sound_theology.jpg\" width=\"320\" \/><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong><span><br \/><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Since about 20 years a lot of religious education scholars, developmental scholars and theologians in Germany are researching on children theology.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Children theology is theology originated by children. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Hartmut Rupp defines the relevance of children theology the following way:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>&#8220;Children theology is the mastering of comprehensive competences. It trains aesthetic, hermeneutic, methodic, objective, communicative and social competences. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>The goal of childern theology is that kids can articulate their own impressions, insights, questions, interpretations, images, evaluations and opinions about religious topics, which means their religiosity. This happens with a constant reflection of the biblical-christian faith.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>I phrase the goal of the competence in children theology as the ability to articulate the own religiosity and to reflect on it with others.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>\u00a0Gerhard B\u00fctttner states too: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>\u201cChildren theology is no theology <em>for <\/em>children it is a theology <em>of <\/em>the children. It is only important to interpret the children in the right way, corresponding to their context (Questions of creation, notions and images of God, interpretation of biblical texts).<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Children theology is a hermeneutic of active acquirement and not an educational system. Children theology isn\u2019t replacing religious education. Children have a right for their own theology and they have a right for for their own theology as a \u201cfirst naivite\u00e9\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>(all quoted and translated from \u201cJahrbuch der Kindertheologie\u201d and \u201cZeitschrift f\u00fcr Religionsp\u00e4dagogik. Kindertheologie\u201d) <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"399\" src=\"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-ak6b4qUGW_w\/TctMzEgFfHI\/AAAAAAAAAJM\/-gwoO3R0B10\/s1600\/Peanuts.Rain+on+Just+and+Unjust.gif\" width=\"472\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Grenz and Olson are self-confident and assured that everyone needs theology.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Why not including all, not depending on their academic background and their intellectual and reflective capacities?<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><em><span>I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"right\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>Mt 18:3<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong><span>Theology of the Peanuts<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>And as a side note let me conclude that Charles M. Schulz is providing us with such a rich treasure of theological thoughts in his peanuts cartoons. It contains all the big topoi of theological examination from sin to revelation and from doubt to love.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>And by the way, the name \u201cSnoopy\u201d goes back to a norwegian term of endearment, a name that a mother would call her young child (snupi), why not listen to young children to what God is doing in their lives and learn from them?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>\u00a0More insight on the <a href=\"http:\/\/experimentaltheology.blogspot.de\/2008\/02\/theology-of-peanuts.html\">Theology of the peanuts by Richard Beck you\u2019ll find here.<\/a> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week we were reading a book on the question \u201dWho needs theology? (by Stanley J. Grenz and Roger E. Olson). 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